~or “A Mining We Will Go, A
Mining We Will Go…”
OK, I think I figured out mining
in E:D… and I like it much moar than in EVE. Mining in EVE is all but a fully
automated process and hence quite boring as anyone who has ever done it
knows... even those who LIKE it know it is boring but they use the ‘staring at
screen’ time to do other things… read blogs, work on spreadsheets, watch
streams, play League… etc., etc.
In E:D however, mining is real
PvE, and a quite active PvE to boot. Several things I have learned along the
way… Your ships fit is, same as in EVE, critical yet very very different. The
modules interactions are more granular, more detailed than in EVE and in many
ways more realistic.
So I fly out to a “Resource
Extraction” site… IE asteroid field, which in themselves are a bit more
realistic too in that they are not silly little partial arcs of rocks with no
sensible reason as to why or what they are arcing around… These are fields of
rocks of varying sizes usually very (very) close to a sun. And the first time I
landed at one I trundled over to a rock and hit mouse1 to run out the mining
lasers and… my ship shut down. Powered off. Dead in the water… there I was… adrift in the black...
Yup, all powered systems shut the
eff off and I see this timer, in RED telling me my oxygen will run out in
8m24s… 8m23s…8m22s…8m21s… wait, what? WTF??
After a few very interesting
minutes I finally got the power back on… turns out I was badly overbudgeted for
power. IE out of Cap. There are 2 modules that run your ‘grid’ in E:D, the Power Plant and the Power Distributor. The Power Plants are nuclear fusion
reactors and the Power Distributor manages the power output to the ships
Systems, Engine, and Weapons. It uses capacitor banks and has a set recharge
capacity.
These 2 systems provide all the
power to run all the systems on your ship. Ask for more power than your plant
and distributor can provide and you blow fuses and melt busbars and… BZZZZZzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzz zzzzt!… everything goes
offline.
So you have to do like we do in
EVE and balance your Power and Distribution (as compared to Capacitor and CPU)
as you fit up your ship. You can even run higher capacity mods by offlining
some while onlining others and swapping around as needed… but unlike EVE, this
is a simple flip of a switch without any need to wait for the grid to recharge
to 95% or be at some set distance from X thing or whatever… So there I was
overbudget on power by like 120% with all mod on, and deploying all hardpoints
promptly tripped all the breakers… oh joy.
Anyhoo… once I got past that (by
shutting off ALL defensive and offensive mods) I mined up enough creds to buy a
Power Plant and Distributor that easily handles all my power needs… Now I’m running
at 90% power draw with 100% mods online, Schweet. So I can head back out and
concentrate on actually mining instead of being all focused on not asphyxiating
in my ship cause Im’a derp.
Now as to the mining itself… that
was interesting, and fun. I have found my best method is to… but first, a few
notes of importance…
NOTE on Collector Drones:
You have to buy and load up on Collector
Drones. They are cheap but they take up 1 ton each, IE 1 space in your cargo
racks. If you have 16 ton racks (currently I have x2 8 ton racks), you can
carry 16 Collector Drones. But… you need to leave at least one space free for
your first completed bin. Plus the drones have a limited lifespan.
Lifespan ranges from 300 to 720
seconds… yup, 5 minutes to 12 minutes max. Depending on class and rating you
can have from 1 to 4 active and they can have ranges from 600m to 2,380m.
Mining solo with one laser and
one ship I carry 10 drones. I found I can keep each one quite busy with the
above method until they die and I have enough drones to make it through to a
full 16/16 cargo racks. My only wasted drone up-time is travelling between
rocks and as you can’t (as far as I can tell) order an active drone to dock up,
and they are cheap, 120c each, I moar than cover the losses. Plus, if you think
on it you soon realize you need to free up the cargo racks those drones are
taking up for your completed refined ores anyway… so 10 drones at 1,200c
against a 30k to 50k cred haul? Yeah, I’m ok with that.
NOTE on Prospector Drones:
I tested Prospector Drones early
on. Fire and forget throw away drones, their job it to tell you the exact
composition of a given rock… useful stuff to be sure and I can see the value in
carrying them, I just don’t have the cargo racks for it yet.
NOTE on Rocks:
As far as I have been able to
find out so far (PLEASE correct me if I am wrong here ok?) but there is no way
to mark or tag rocks you have already depleted… I guess maybe Prospector Drones
might help with that, but the HUD is limited and the rocks don’t POP (despawn)
when done so you run a very real potential to get confused and waste time burning
on a rock you already depleted… that is a bit of a pisser TBH.
OK, back to the How Tur Mines in
E:D…
1. Warp in, land, get your
bearings, choose a rock;
2. Approach till it’s clearly
defined on your HUD;
3. Open Cargo Scoop;
4. Hit Fire1 to deploy
weapons/mining laser/launch & program a Collector Drone;
5. Line up your laser so it’s
getting a good hit near the center of the rock… some rotate fairly fast and you
want to be burning rock the whole time without having to change your aimpoint;
6. Start burning the rock;
A. Chunks of
the rock will be cut free and float off, the Drone will automatically fly out
and snatch them up and pop them into your cargo hatch where they are loaded
into the Refinery;
B. Keep
burning continuously and chunks will be cut off slightly faster than the drone
can collect them keeping the drone very busy;
7. Toggle ‘mouse free look’
(button push the mouse wheel) and turn slowly to your right, until the right
side control panel just opens up;
8. Switch to the “Cargo” tab to manage the
Refinery and your Cargo hold. (see below)
A. I have
upgraded to a 3 hopper Refinery, you will
want to buy and fit the highest grade Refinery you can, more hoppers = less
wasted ore = moar credits;
9. Once the drone delivers a
chunk the Refinery will tell you what it is composed of and you can select what
to refine. Keep in mind you will be
stuck with refining whatever you select until each hopper is filled (1 ton)(or
you decide to vent the refined ores… not) once full, the ton of refined ore is automatically
moved to the cargo rack freeing up that hopper. This means upon occasion you
may/will find yourself throwing away very lucrative ores… so save up and get
those upgraded Refineries.
OK, so now you settle in… The
laser burns and cuts, chunks of rock break off and drift away, the drone zips
back n forth collecting and delivering, you sit and actively hold fire on the
laser while deciding and selecting what gets vented and what gets refined and while
keeping an eye on the asteroid watching for when the (square white) chunks stop
popping off… IE for when that rocks worthwhile ores are depleted.
10. Once the rock is depleted,
stop burning and allow the drone to clean up the last of the chunks while picking
out your next rock then get over there and get started as soon as possible to
maximize the time you have on your drones…
Rinse and repeat.
Once your cargo racks are full,
head in to a station and sell your ores. Even the way I am doing it solo is
better money than the hauler contracts. I tried smuggling once… may give it a
go later when I am better situated to cover the loss of cargo, the fines and
repair the damages to my ship from hammering off the docking port while under
boost while getting scanned… And I have yet to try any PvP or fighting PvE as I
am simply not confident of my fight n flight skills… though I seem to be a god
in the training simulator.
Anyhoo, to put it all in
pitchers…
Fly reckless and see you in the
Miningfield =/|)=
NIce guide, seems much more involved than eve, perhaps CCP can take some notes... as an aside, why do you spell more as moar
ReplyDeleteSeems I missed your other two posts about E:D. I had to go read them to catch up. I'm still over 1000 light years out, but am heading back to civilization now. We should link up some time to watch each other's back. As always, I am CMDR Mabrick. :)
ReplyDeleteMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB!!!! Buddy! WOW... 1000 LY!! I think I have gone like a max of 4 hops... what, 25ish LY?? But then again I am like 4 weeks ingame so... baby steps afore I dive in the deep end huh?
DeleteAnd I, as you saw... and Still ME!! LOL Look forward to your return... let me know when you are scheduled to arrive and I will buy fireworks and snoba... oh, wait, that's EVE. Crap. =]
As long as you enjoy it, that's cool.
ReplyDeleteAs a personal view, it sounds like busy work. It sounds like something that is interesting the first dozen times you do it, but would you look forward to logging in and doing it after 100 or 1000 times?
The genius of EVE mining is exactly that often you can indeed do other stuff at the same time (with some associated tradeoffs of course). Note: that doesn't mean it's a fully automated chore -- instead of busy work or mini games, the play is distilled to a more meta level: where/what you mine, how (fleet setup, fits, dealing with rats/gankers, etc), who with, and so on.
That's personally why I am still EVE mining after who knows how many hours of mining over many years. This definitely wouldn't be the case if I was forced to endure a space/mining themed Candy Crush or Flappy Bird as "mining gameplay".
Oh don't get me wrong in any of this... This is just an exploration of one of the only 2 new SciFi Space based MMO games that (1) I am at all interested in and (b) are either newly launched, Elite Dangerous, or the horizon, Star Citizen.
DeleteI have not done much on S:C simply because I’m not a betahead… I prefer the full monty when I join a game.
As for mining in E:D, I agree mining in EVE is vastly different, and I can definitely see the potential for mining in E:D to be seen as a grind and un-fun… yet, how many players see mining in EVE in exactly the same light? many… if not most.
Many like mining in EVE because for the most part you can do it AFK and actually be ‘doing’ other things… but not having to actively play EVE. Mining in E:D requires you to be actively involved and that will greatly appeal to some, not so much to others… you know, variety.
I myself went out to a ringed planet last night… and warping in in supercruise and cruising over the rings until they resolved from white ringed bands into immense fields of rocks… thousands if not hundreds of thousands of miles across… slowly (remember I am moving at superluminal speeds here) slowly resolving into individual rocks… then reducing speed (still faster than light just by less of a ‘x’ factor) and angling down to the ecliptic of the ring and deciding when to drop out of supercruise so you don’t try to blow through a rock field at something over 299,792,458 METERS PER SECOND… IE SPLAT.
Then, after you drop out to sublight speeds… the full burn approach and eventual slow down and transition into the rock field… OMG so effin immersive you simply cannot believe it until you do it.
One of the things about EVE is, everyone wants things to happen NOW. No one wants to wait for anything… so much of the ‘detail’ in space travel and such is ignored in EVE… hence while I am comparing the 2 games, I am coming to believe they are not similar, but more 2 sides of the SciFi Space MMO coin as twere…
both immersive, just in very different ways…
both grindy, again just in very different ways.
Actually, I believe EVE And E:D complement each other quiet well offering a variety of immersive Space based/SciFi, Flight-n-Fight, PvE/PvP, Solos/Social MMO gameplay in a really massive ‘verse without stepping all over each other’s toes.